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LadyRocker

 Age : 37 Joined : 15 Jul 2007 Posts : 255 Location : Visalia CA
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:34 pm | |
| Key word...almost. Anyway, you DO need to run for office. I mean, if God is for you, who can be against you? There is something to be said about that Scripture. If no Christian ever ran for office, how can we implement our ideas in terms of faith? Some people say the two have no place with each other, but I submit that they so, since we are not supposed to murder or steal. Those are in the Ten Commandments; however very few even acknowledge that, anymore since we don't have a lot of people walking in the ways of the Lord. However, there's always a time to start. If I could run for President, I'd do it. However, I am a naturalized citizen, so no go. I guess I could run for Governor of California, but I am not sure the liberal hacks in the state of Cali would go for my ideas, especially if they make sense.  |
|  | | Paladin
Joined : 22 Jul 2007 Posts : 22
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:27 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Anyway, you DO need to run for office. |
*I* do? I'll pass!
| Quote: | | I mean, if God is for you, who can be against you? |
Anyone of a differing political ideology, including the Religious Right.
| Quote: | If no Christian ever ran for office, how can we implement our ideas in terms of faith?
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Simple. Seperation of Church and State. If we're for what the Founding Fathers created, what they personally wanted them we shouldn't attempt to institute our morality or ideology apon the entire country. That's just the way it is.
| Quote: | | Some people say the two have no place with each other, |
The Founders seemed to think so too. I personally agree but that is me. Religion has no place in politics, has been used and perverted for political gain, and creates trivial differences. If a politician truly believes in God(such as Jimmy Carter) then awsome. Good for them. At this point it's gotten outa hand. Protest votes against decent candidates based strictly on their brand of Christian Faith and "on camera Christians" who have a "faith" as long as a camera is around, sometimes faltering even then. Remove the whole deal. Vote based on political platforms not religious ideology. That's how I see it though. Wiser minds then myself stated the same before my family even came here. |
|  | | LadyRocker

 Age : 37 Joined : 15 Jul 2007 Posts : 255 Location : Visalia CA
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:26 am | |
| | Quote: | | Seperation of Church and State. |
I think this is where people tend to go wrong, because what was meant by "separation of church and state" has very little to do with what we think it means. I'll look it up, but from studying in my history books (no, they were not religious books, by the way), the phrase originated from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote about a state church. Back in Great Britain, the Anglican church was the head, and this is why we do not have a state-church, where one specific denomination controls state affairs. If you remember, David was the king, and he was in control of the government at the time. Kings had to appoint people into office. Even after Babylonian captivity, Daniel and his friends proved to be so well-educated, they were appointed in high places for King Nebuchadnezzar. Later in life, Daniel would be appointed by King Darius of Persia. So, in essence, his faith DID play a role in the affairs of state. |
|  | | Tonnenator

 Age : 36 Joined : 21 Jul 2007 Posts : 351 Location : Columbus, OH Age : Midlife Crisis
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:08 am | |
| | Also seperation of church and state is not in the US Constitution or any other document. It is merely a concept, which has been twisted and overmoralized. It was meant as a way to keep the government from dictating how people should worship, not as a means to keep morality out of the government, but many liberal-thinking politicians have used it to try and justify their crooked ways.... |
|  | | MetalheaD

 Age : 14 Joined : 22 Feb 2008 Posts : 651 Location : here, and there, and everywhere.
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:58 am | |
| that was a lot of BIG words. well put Tonne.  _________________ Deus nobiscum, quis contra? |
|  | | switchbladeknitter

 Joined : 13 Nov 2007 Posts : 438 Location : through the looking glass Age : 29 and holding!!
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:21 pm | |
| I just had to say - at least we no longer have to worry about president Hillary! As I'm not really "for" any main candidate I was thinking of a McCain slogan. McCain, at least he's not Hillary _________________ Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above. -Gia Carangi |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:17 pm | |
| Vote Ron Paul and our nation wont fall... Ok , its not officially a slogan but it is the best I can come up with on short notice. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | switchbladeknitter

 Joined : 13 Nov 2007 Posts : 438 Location : through the looking glass Age : 29 and holding!!
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:50 pm | |
| I like it. I know I've pointed it out before but as far as signage (posters, stickers, billboards,flyers etc) across the nation Ron Paul wins hands down. _________________ Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above. -Gia Carangi |
|  | | Dante_infrint

 Age : 17 Joined : 15 Jun 2008 Posts : 10 Age : 17
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:42 pm | |
| | where all gonna dieeeeeeeee!!!!. i thought bush was the best since george but im not worried about it but no hiller. |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:12 pm | |
| for all the key points, RON PAUL...no he dont have a chance at winning because the world sees things in the eyes of the media and the golden rule....which is he who has the gold makes the rules. RON PAUL RON PAUL RON................PAUL _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | switchbladeknitter

 Joined : 13 Nov 2007 Posts : 438 Location : through the looking glass Age : 29 and holding!!
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:04 pm | |
| so what do you think about ron paul? lol _________________ Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above. -Gia Carangi |
|  | | zombiewalkin

 Age : 37 Joined : 10 Jun 2008 Posts : 35
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:31 pm | |
| | I like what Ron Paul stands for. I would love to vote for him........heck I know he wont be on the ticket BUT I could always write him in! |
|  | | switchbladeknitter

 Joined : 13 Nov 2007 Posts : 438 Location : through the looking glass Age : 29 and holding!!
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:59 am | |
| That's what I'm probably gonna do. He is the only one that makes any sense in my opinion. _________________ Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above. -Gia Carangi |
|  | | MetalheaD

 Age : 14 Joined : 22 Feb 2008 Posts : 651 Location : here, and there, and everywhere.
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:56 pm | |
| they're all evil...... BOB DYLAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!! _________________ Deus nobiscum, quis contra? |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: President Hillary? Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:00 pm | |
| definatly wouldnt vote for a commie like Dylan for president. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
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