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PostSubject: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Thu May 08, 2008 11:54 pm

(*takes a deep breath*)

Well, here's one that should be another huge honkin stinkin thread that ends with a "let's all agree to disagree" statement by Marcia.

LOL

Have you guys heard anything about this yet?

Apparently, there's some big revival going on in Lakeland Florida. One of my young adults called me, all excited about it. It sounded awesome.

So, I went to GodTV and checked it out a bit. Then, I got on Google, and I Google'd it. I read some excerpts from a website where people were saying Rick Joyner was a heretic. Then I read more where those people condemned the entire Third Wave/Vineyard movement.

So I'm confused.

On the one hand, I'm all into being like this: cheers cheers cheers

....and I believe in the giftings, in healing, in revival, tongues, the fire of the Holy Spirit, etc. You know I do.

On the other hand, I have a healthy dose of skepticism about this for a couple of reasons:

1) The quotes I read from Rick Joyner's books really did sound like false teachings to me.

2) Somehow this is tied into Heritage USA. Isn't that Jim and Tammy Bakker's old place?

So - is this the real deal, or a bunch of rah-rah hoopla?

You can watch it on YouTube or GodTV and then let me know.

Also somehow the Elijah List and Kim Clement has something to do with this but I don't know enough about him yet except that he says he's a prophet.
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Fri May 09, 2008 7:06 am

Tonnenator wrote:

So - is this the real deal, or a bunch of rah-rah hoopla?


To some, it will be the real deal, and to others it will be crapola hoopla. And each group will SWEAR that God gave them revelation on their truth - that's the fickleness of people.


tongue


I don't know if, or how, it ties in, but Rick Joyner and Co. (actually called MorningStar Ministries) bought the old Heritage USA place four years ago, and turned into quite a beautiful place of ministry. It's about 20 minutes south of Charlotte just over the border into SC.
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Fri May 09, 2008 8:47 am

what's a rah rah hoopla?


im to catholic to call anybody a heretic.
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Fri May 09, 2008 11:07 am

I think that depending on who you are and what 'church' you follow you will see anyone who believes differently from you as not speaking the real truth.
some christians see catholics as wrong, some baptists see all non-babtists as wrong, the list goes on and on
I personally think that anyone who is sowing the seeds of faith can't be all wrong. If someone gets someone else intereted in religion and actually wanting to pick up a Bible and learn more, that's a good thing no matter what.
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Fri May 09, 2008 3:44 pm

My buddy lives in Florida and I spoke with him last night. He was very excited about this. I had not heard of it yet. I also googled it. I spent the first 5 years of my walk in the charasmatic church, so none of this if foreign to me. I believe God can do anything, but I am very cautious about things like this and always try to look at the fruit. Not to mention the fact that when I went to this Todd Bentley's website, the first thing I saw was big banners to "partner" with him, yes for only 30, 80 or 500 dollars a month, you can join in this revival.
If you study church history, you will see true revival is always accompanied with mass repentance.

The bible says:

Colossians 2:8, 18-19
8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize.
Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19 He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

I also found an interesting blog about this, I mostly agree with what this dude says...

http://churchwarnings.blogspot.com/2008/05/todd-bentley-revival-in-lakeland-email.html
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Fri May 09, 2008 5:01 pm

Sounds like Hank Hanegraaff might be writting a sequel to "Counterfiet Revival!" Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Sat May 10, 2008 2:12 am

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Todd Bentley's website, the first thing I saw was big banners to "partner" with him, yes for only 30, 80 or 500 dollars a month, you can join in this revival.


.........yeah.

But no no no no no. It can't be "true to some and not true to others". We can't let ourselves slide down that slippery slope. Truth is truth, man. I'm sorry but it's either true or it's not. Something can't be truth to someone and a lie to someone else, otherwise it's not really truth.

It either IS a true revival........or it's not.

....and that's what I'm trying to find out.
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PostSubject: Re: The Lakeland Revival and the Guy With All the Tattoos.   Sat May 10, 2008 9:58 am

The Changeling wrote:
Sounds like Hank Hanegraaff might be writting a sequel to "Counterfiet Revival!" Laughing

Gotta love Hank. I remember when he exposed the pensecola circus...clown
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