This Is One Nasty "Chick"!

Subject: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:58 am

http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p4.asp

Guest

Being Catholic, my wife and I see this kind of stuff all the time. It's always interesting to see to what ends Christians bash other Christians.

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:02 am

I used to buy these tracts all the time, I had quite the collection! When I returned to Christ in the marines at the age of 19, it was through the ministry of the AoG, then I moved on to some Baptist churches, I was fed a steady diet of this anti-Catholic rhetoric. They told me my baptism as an infant was invalid and I was brought up in a Satainc church! I am fully convinced now that the words of the late Bishop Fulten Sheen are true; "Only a few really hate the Catholic Church, but many hate what they believe She teaches."

Guest

That is so true. I think alot of people fear that which they do not understand. Everyone is working towards the same goal. Enough of the religion bashing. Christians as a group already have enough enemies to be bickering amongst themselves.

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:48 am

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though i think CHICK is a jerk, and has a cold heart, i must say there are things about catholocism i do not agree with (though i love catholics)!

there is one mediator, the man jesus who was given as a ransom! in jesus, we have out "cohen ha gadol"! why do we have other priests? the bible says to "call no man father", yet priests are called father.

also, the eucarist, the whole idea that that bread and wine ACTUALLY TURN INTO the BODY and BLOOD of christ..is absurd! jesus died ONCE AND FOR ALL. his sacrifice was sufficent! we are to eat the lord's supper IN REMEMBERANCE of him! it does not BECOME HIM.

anyhow, i did not write this to offend my catholic brothers and sisters. i just had to get that off my chest.

"protestants" do some really messed up stuff, so i am not singling anybody out!

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:29 am

I have noticed that these Chick tracts ALWAYS use one of Satans greatest tools. He gives you enough truth to make you think that he would not lie to you while the whole time he is twisting the truth to fit his own perverted beliefs.
Basicly he tries wrapping up a steaming pile of rooster feces into a package that is so pretty that you forget that it is rooster feces.
I collected his tracts as a young Christian until I seen the one called "Angels". This one claimed that all contemporary Christian music artists were homosexuals and violent hypocrites.
Its so irritating to me that SOME of what he says is the truth, even in the tract you and I both mentioned, but only enough truth to decieve (
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. ) Mad

I agree futuristicfolkartist, there is MUCH about the Catholic faith that I disagree with, most is the very things you mentioned. I honestly believe that there is much evil done in the name of Catholicism, but look also at the blatant anti-biblical things done in the name of Christ. Name it Claim it, Little Gods theory, Anti-biblical manifestations prosperity teaching , ect.
Seems like its close to some of the signs of the end.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:49 am

I will look into the you mediator comment, as for the Eucharist, Luther believed in real presence even after the reformation. For now I'll just say, we ask for our brothers and sisters to pray for us, why bother if Christ is our only mediator?

Let me start here w/a premise that I am no Catholic apologist, nor am I very good at christian apologetics, if you really would like to know more about what the Catholic Church really teaches let me suggest you visit this site:

http://chnetwork.org/forums/

If you go there w/the intent of bashing Catholic beliefs, you'll probably get banned, as i was here for bashing Protestant/christian beliefs, but if you go there w/questions, you'll get answers and be treated w/respect.

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:06 pm

Perhaps this is the scripture that was in reference.
1Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Perhaps there are others that state differently but this is the only one I can recall at the moment. I have been out of the bible for a few months. Sad

But you did raise an interesting question. Why then do we ask for our bretheren to pray for us?

Guest

These are just my opinions.

Honestly, I have always had a problem with the Rapture idea. The idea of only the "good people" in the world being summoned one day is a little more far fetched than believing the body and blood of Christ in the eucharist. Also, what is God going to do with 10% of my earnings? Smile

But honestly, although I am Catholic, I must be honest that I don't follow the Church blindly. I believe that does not make me "in communion" with the Church, but Catholicism works for me. I don't condemn my Christian brothers because of their personal religious beliefs.

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:57 pm

Most mainline Protestants do not believe in the rapture as it is espoused in "Left Behind", that belief is in fact, a rupture! Laughing

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:04 pm

Okay here's my two cents on this one:

a) I have always hated Chick tracts. Did before I was saved, and still do now. I think they portray Christians as being everything the world says we are - bigoted, closed-minded, unkind and intolerant. I also never liked the anti-Christian rock message, considering that Christian rock was the catalyst God used to draw me to Himself.

b) I go to an AoG church and was raised in one. None of the AoG churches I've ever been to were into Chick tracts, and none of them have ever bashed Catholics.

c) John's family is Catholic and my mother-in-law is one of the Eucharists at their parish. She does not believe that the elements literally "become" the blood and body of Jesus...she believes the way we do. They are Irish Catholic.

There are things about the Catholic doctrine that I disagree with.....one of them is, why don't Catholics refer to themselves as Christians? Aren't they followers of Christ? I've always wondered that.

Also - there are things about the AoG, Southern Baptist, independent charismatic, etc doctrines I disagree with.

I go wherever God leads my husband and I to go, and I serve Him wherever I happen to be on this planet. I guess I have that mindset because He has called my husband and I to have an interdenominational ministry (Generation Actz).

I mean - I got saved at World Harvest Church, the church from the TV show Breakthrough in case any of you have ever seen it. Believe me, there are plenty of things about Rod Parsley I've disagreed with over the years.

But - today I heard him preach the most awesome message (on TV cause I'm sick) that I've ever heard him preach, about how we need to stop isolating ourselves as Christians and start reaching out and serving people. It was amazing, and ironically went against everything he taught in the 80's about health, wealth and the pursuit thereof.

It just goes to show you that no matter the doctrine or denomination, they are all ran by PEOPLE who are imperfect and can be wrong.

Which is I guess why I call myself a Bapticostal. LOL

But yeah I can't stand Chick tracts......

Subject: Re: This Is One Nasty "Chick"! Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:10 pm

Catholics most certainly refer to themselves as christians.

http://www.fortunecity.com/campus/medicine/871/church.html

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