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switchbladeknitter
Joined : 13 Nov 2007
Posts : 516
Location : through the looking glass
Age : 29 and holding!!
 |  Subject: Which version of the Bible?  Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:01 pm | |
| If this has been discussed here before you can direct me to where ever that was and I can read there and won't be hurt.
Which version of the Bible is the "best"?
I have been told by some Southern Baptists that the KJV is definately not. That's what I have because that's what I got at a truck stop ministry table. But I have been told by Baptists that dancing is wrong so I wasn't sure how seriously I should take them.
This is going to sound completely silly probably but my biggest problem and the whole thing that makes me ask this question is the way Psalm 139: 13 is translated.
A friend had that as his signature on my old forum saying that God was the original knitter
For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
but the KJV translates it as
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
Am I just being to picky? Or is God trying to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that maybe this isn't the version of the Bible that's the proper one?
I am really looking forward to hearing everyone's input on this.
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And (Saint)Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others - Peter Steele
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| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:22 pm | |
| I honestly look at one verse in the bible and if it is in the version of the bible I have at the time ....I read it....That is John 3:3. I belive the Holy spirit will guide the believer to the truth.
But dont take my word on it, ive been wrong before LOL. |
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switchbladeknitter
Joined : 13 Nov 2007
Posts : 516
Location : through the looking glass
Age : 29 and holding!!
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:01 pm | |
| Thanks and God Bless the internet, I can look up any version of any verse in just sceonds!
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And (Saint)Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others - Peter Steele
The real question is :What would Jesus watch on YouTube? |
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| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:26 am | |
| | I dont know if one version is better than the other I would say whatever version helps you understand what the word is saying would be the best one. I use KJV, NIV, NAS and the Message |
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bigjtink
Age : 51
Joined : 21 May 2007
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| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:39 pm | |
| | I use the New King James. Its easier to read. But at times I go to biblegateway.com and I can look up the same verse from every translation. Works for me. |
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switchbladeknitter
Joined : 13 Nov 2007
Posts : 516
Location : through the looking glass
Age : 29 and holding!!
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:00 pm | |
| I love biblegateway.com!
You guys are making me feel a lot better. I kind of thought that really as long as you're reading the Bible, it would probably be best to go with what speaks to you most and what helps you to understand it best.
I even saw this "far-out" version of the Bible at someone's house before. It was from the 60's and said things like "There was this one cat named Noah..." Groovy man!!  LOL!!
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And (Saint)Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others - Peter Steele
The real question is :What would Jesus watch on YouTube? |
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LadyRocker
Age : 37
Joined : 15 Jul 2007
Posts : 269
Location : Visalia CA
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:24 pm | |
| | I'm a King James person from way back, I suppose. I memorized verses that way, too. Well, I know it's kind of archaic, but there are advantages and disadvantages to that version, one of which is connotation with certain words meaning certain things. |
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PeacethroughX
Joined : 24 May 2007
Posts : 456
Location : Charlotte, NC
Age : old enough!
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:27 pm | |
| My favorite is the New American Standard, and then the Amplified. It might that they are just my oldest and most favorite Bibles, so I'm comfortable with them.
I'll echo what Aaron said, though. Whatever version that gets you into the Bible and reading it on a daily basis is the BEST one for you!
As you grow more intimate in your relationship with God through your reading and spending time with Him, if there is one particular translation that's best for you, God will let you know it. 
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"Who among the gods is like you, O LORD ?
Who is like you—
majestic in holiness,
awesome in glory,
working wonders?" Exodus 15:11
http://www.achurchforthecity.org
"I don't reject your Christ, I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." Mahatma Ghandi |
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switchbladeknitter
Joined : 13 Nov 2007
Posts : 516
Location : through the looking glass
Age : 29 and holding!!
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:12 am | |
| Thanks for all the input everyone. So after LadyRocker's other post about Christmas - is it proper to ask for a Bible for Christmas? LOL
And I thought I might have been being a little too picky about the whole "knit together" thing.
Ah the struggles of being a Christian Goth Fiber Artist!
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And (Saint)Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others - Peter Steele
The real question is :What would Jesus watch on YouTube? |
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LadyRocker
Age : 37
Joined : 15 Jul 2007
Posts : 269
Location : Visalia CA
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:04 pm | |
| | You know, despite everyting I got for Christmas, I got a new Bible last year. It was probably one of the best gifts I've ever received over the years. |
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switchbladeknitter
Joined : 13 Nov 2007
Posts : 516
Location : through the looking glass
Age : 29 and holding!!
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:11 am | |
| I think I'll ask my hubby for a new Bible then 
I usually never know what to ask for when the gift getting holidays come around. I ask for vacuum cleaners and microwaves.
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And (Saint)Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others - Peter Steele
The real question is :What would Jesus watch on YouTube? |
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sirhemlock
Joined : 31 May 2007
Posts : 68
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:17 am | |
| | switchbladeknitter wrote: |
Which version of the Bible is the "best"? |
When considering an English translation it is helpful to understand the
main reasons they differ and what purposes/philosophies underlie them.
Two main issues differentiate English Versions:
1. How exact is the translation?
a. Formal Equivalence (as literal as possible): KJV, NKJV, NASB, RSV; still literal but slightly less so: JPS, NRSV, etc.
b. Dynamic Equivalence (looser word-equivalents or phrase-equivalents;
supposedly more understandable but less literal and more translator
interpretation): NIV, NEB, NLT, TEV/GNG, etc.
c. Paraphrase (very free, non-literal renderings; highest degree of translator interpretation): Living Bible; The Message (yuk).
2. Which of two manuscript theories is used:
a. Modern Theory: (“Ecclectic Methodology,” favors oldest manuscripts (principally from Egypt), among other considerations.
b. “King James” Theory (favors the manuscripts which were preserved in
the highest numbers (Byzantine text tradition, i.e. the "Majority
Text").
Paraphrases and Dynamic Equivalent translations are written because
they are supposed to be more readable, but the most literal
word-for-word versions (listed above under 1a) are quite readable as well, and
they are more accurate! Sirhemlock recommends a literal version unless
you are confused by a passage (then you can compare a less literal
version to help “explain” it better). The manuscript theory doesn’t
make that big of a difference (alarmist books to the contrary
notwithstanding) because modern versions like the NASB give the most
important variant readings in the margin anyway ("some manuscripts
have..."). The KJV does not do this. Scholars such as Kenyon, Metzger,
and F. F. Bruce insist that percentage-wise, most of the text is the
same anyway, and no major doctrine of the Christian faith rests on a
disputed reading. Metzger estimated 97% of the NT is unaffected by
variants, and many of the 3% variants are trivial. If you’re like me,
you like to study every variant, but if God is merciful to you, you are
not like me.
My favorite version, by far, is the NASB (not the "new NASB," but the
NASB), an extremely literal but very readable, modern manuscript theory
version. The most important variant readings are given in the margins.
If you prefer to check the variants more closely, read and compare the
NKJV to the NASB (or better yet, learn Hebrew and Greek and textual
criticism). The KJV is a very beautiful version as well, though it is
harder to read for some because the language is 400 years old. But it
was incredibly well done, IMO. |
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switchbladeknitter
Joined : 13 Nov 2007
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Location : through the looking glass
Age : 29 and holding!!
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:16 pm | |
| Wow! Thanks for that sirhemlock.
Just one thing...I think though I am gonna stick with the English translations instead of learning Hebrew or Greek. LOL!
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And (Saint)Peter goes ‘If you know about mans suffering on earth, why do so many horrible things happen to good people?’ And God said, ‘Because I love them so much that I pour pain upon them so that the transition from life to death will be more profound for them and they will appreciate my gift more than the others - Peter Steele
The real question is :What would Jesus watch on YouTube? |
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sirhemlock
Joined : 31 May 2007
Posts : 68
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:31 pm | |
| | De nada; actually I just cut/pasted from my discussion at the old Sanctuary forum. You would like Heb/Gk if you tried, but knitting is a good thing too, if you use the right tool... ;-) |
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Tonnenator
Age : 36
Joined : 21 Jul 2007
Posts : 354
Location : Columbus, OH
Age : Midlife Crisis
| | Subject: Re: Which version of the Bible? Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:22 am | |
| My personal favorite used to be the CEV (Contemporary English Version), but actually funny thing - AT bible study, we were reading out of that, and I found scriptures in Jeremiah that were totally wrong! These were scriptures that I had memorized KJV and the CEV had them meaning something completely different!
The KJV is good if you can understand Olde English. Most Southern Baptist churches I've been to ONLY use KJV in fact we were severely reprimanded by a parent (he was the worship leader) at the one SBC we were youth leaders at, because he found out we were teaching from the CEV.
I used to go to Calvary Chapel which is a pretty picky church about scriptures and doctrinal correctness. They always used the New Living Translation.
I like the NLT myself, too although I don't have one in my house just yet.
All the ones everybody mentioned here are good, although I personally wouldn't recommend the CEV since I found those scriptures in it. However the CEV was very good for me to read from, for the youth at Calvary Chapel who were basically "street kids" and could barely read and had very short attention spans. The Gospels read like fiction novels.
As far as websites go, I like www.crosswalk.com.
Hope that helped! |
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