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Ian
Joined : 12 Apr 2008 Posts : 44
| Subject: Re: Why Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:00 am | |
| Self-retraction.
Ian
Last edited by Ian on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|  | | The Changeling

 Age : 45 Joined : 06 Aug 2007 Posts : 259 Location : Cleveland, Oh Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Why Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:51 am | |
| The abuse of a philosophy does not negate it's authenticity, if your balking at a commitment to Christ do to the hypocrisy of some of His followers, you'll never have a shortage of them! This is not to excuse those of us who call ourselves christians who have played the hypocrite, indeed, the name of the Lord has been blasphemed among the pagans because of us!  |
|  | | switchbladeknitter

 Joined : 13 Nov 2007 Posts : 438 Location : through the looking glass Age : 29 and holding!!
| Subject: Re: Why Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:56 pm | |
| OK so I was a little harsh in my speaking to you and I do aploigize. I sometimes take personal attacks (to myself and/or people I care for, and I do care about everyone here) a little more personal than I should, I am working on that. And in my comment yes I did mean that everyone EVERYONE is at different levels of their spiritual journey. From non believers to the most holy person walking the earth (although I wouldn't have the slightest clue who that is) I'll be the first to admit I was a very very bad girl for a long time and every day I try to be better. There was a time in my life when I would have joined a forum like this just to egg people on and mock their religion and make them question the things they believe, but things happened to me that brought me back around. I am a lot better person now that I used to be, no one is anywhere near where they should be but it's because we are imperfect beings. There are some very wonderful very spirit filled people here and to pick on anyone here just isn't cool. How about judge not lest ye be judged? _________________ Life and death, energy and peace. If I stop today it was still worth it. Even the terrible mistakes that I made and would have unmade if I could. The pains that have burned me and scarred my soul, it was worth it, for having been allowed to walk where I've walked, which was to hell on earth, heaven on earth, back again, into, under, far in between, through it, in it, and above. -Gia Carangi |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Why Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:20 pm | |
| AND the nazi ISNT a satanist. LOL.  _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | PeacethroughX

 Joined : 24 May 2007 Posts : 454 Location : Charlotte, NC Age : old enough!
| Subject: Re: Why Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:11 pm | |
| As Christians, our behaviour to the outside world is watched carefully. Sadly, we continue to fall short of viewpoints chosen by the world to judge Christians. Happily, the Father has a different standard by which He judges us - the condition of our heart.
Yet if our heart is truly yielded to Jesus, our actions will portray His love, mercy, and grace. Our standard was set in scripture and where we CANNOT fail as Christians is in how we treat normal people. Yes, "normal" is the word I use because we, as Christians, are a peculiar people. 
If our hearts are full of love and mercy, our actions will follow. It is that simple.
Yes, we will screw up and blow it at times, but a yielded heart will recognize that... eventually... and repent. The length of time to recognition and repentance varies with each person as we grow in Christ.
And that is where we, as a board family, come in to help each other, encourage each other, and even gently correct each other.
And if you don't like it... you can bite my tookas.  _________________ "Who among the gods is like you, O LORD ? Who is like you— majestic in holiness, awesome in glory, working wonders?" Exodus 15:11
http://www.achurchforthecity.org
"I don't reject your Christ, I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." Mahatma Ghandi |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:25 am | |
| [quote="Ian"]| Quote: | I pointed out that the oddity of seeing a person representing a serial killer consoling a self-described Nazi on the Sanctuary board. Certainly that might not be something I would expect to encounter on a "Christian" message board. Ian |
Hmmm lets take this a step further as "I" see it....I find it totally strange that I would find a SELF-CONFESSED NON-CHRISTIAN on a Christian site judging the hearts of self-professed Christians. What makes me unworthy to be here (as you deem me not a christian) ,but yet deems you worthy ( a NON CHRISTIAN) to be here yourself ?
Personally I find no problem with a non Christian being here, in fact I find that a most exciting thing, also most beneficial to the Non Christian.
[quote="Ian"]| Quote: | | Would Jesus smile upon having one's hero as an insane copropheliac occultist who killed millions upon millions of people? |
He was neither insane or a murderer of millions of people. Your facts is based on a lie. But I welcome your input nonetheless. It shows me that you do have an inkling of right and wrong albeit you are wrong on your assumptions here. You seem to be a very moral young man. That is a good start. Please stick around and just ignore those that you disagree with and watch the wisdom of the moderators and some of the posters on here. You will be amazed at what you will learn and see in these strange folk known as Christians. God Bless you richly as you learn. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | The Changeling

 Age : 45 Joined : 06 Aug 2007 Posts : 259 Location : Cleveland, Oh Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:51 am | |
| So Hitler was not responsible for all those deaths, not to mention the oppression and torture of countless others?  |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:57 am | |
| History and TRUTH is re-written by the victors in armed conflict...so, Nope, I dont believe six million died, But my political views are not on trial here, in fact I am trying hard to seperate my political beliefs from this site to promote a bit more harmony unto those of us that loves to shoot our mouths off. But no Mark, I do not believe the stories,but that is neither here nor there. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com
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|  | | The Changeling

 Age : 45 Joined : 06 Aug 2007 Posts : 259 Location : Cleveland, Oh Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:19 am | |
| | Actually, it is here, rather than there, what is "the truth" that you have been enlightened to? |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:22 am | |
| Please Mark, Lets not discuss it. I really dont want to debate my beliefs with anyone, I am just content in believing the way I do and believing it is the truth. I will however say that I do not believe any media that is headed by certain people here in America. Maybe some other time we can freely discuss it, but please not right now, ok... Thank you dude. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | The Changeling

 Age : 45 Joined : 06 Aug 2007 Posts : 259 Location : Cleveland, Oh Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:28 am | |
| | That's fine, I was just refering to your first post in this thread. |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:33 am | |
| Yea, way back then I probably was not in a very hospitibal mood....I think we can both understand how sometimes drink clouds the mind and makes us say and do things we are not really proud of.. Im one of those that speaks and then later wishes he would have just kept his feelings to himself. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | LadyRocker

 Age : 37 Joined : 15 Jul 2007 Posts : 255 Location : Visalia CA
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:33 am | |
| | Captain Henry wrote: | Please Mark, Lets not discuss it. I really dont want to debate my beliefs with anyone, I am just content in believing the way I do and believing it is the truth. I will however say that I do not believe any media that is headed by certain people here in America. Maybe some other time we can freely discuss it, but please not right now, ok... Thank you dude. |
Dude, you change your nicks as many times as I change my T-shirts. Seriously, Jim, you continue to live in ignorance in all of this, history will most-likely supercede you. I suggest you go to see the move "Expelled." If nothing else, for your own knowledge and understanding. Also, bear in mind a few things. When the Bible says, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge," I believe God knew what He was talking about when he dictated this to the prophet Isaiah. Without proper knowledge and understanding, you have to face the fact that there are people who are just plain evil and sick. Your wanting to be content with what you believe is not compatible with any form of Scripture. In fact, it's totally against it. |
|  | | Jim Burns

 Age : 42 Joined : 17 Jan 2008 Posts : 441 Location : Shermer Illinois (lol) Age : 42
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:53 am | |
| Lia, I really cannot discuss this...what you see as truth and what me and my crowd see as truth are seperate things. History is re written by the victors...thats all I can say. But if you wish to continue considering me out of touch or wrong , please do if it makes you feel better and takes the focus off of my beliefs. They are mine and not privy to the public any more. Yea i change my nic alot, I guess it all goes with what I am trying to do in my life....Right now I am trying to just seperate any bit of my political and historical belief from this site. There is so many good threads that say what people want to hear, no more time needs to be wasted on what I believe. _________________ ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ 100% "Neo-Maxi Zoom Dweebie" ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Metalvikng's Myspace site. http://www.myspace.com/jimburns65 My blog mirror for those without myspace. http://jb8814.livejournal.com |
|  | | Ian
Joined : 12 Apr 2008 Posts : 44
| Subject: Re: Why Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:01 pm | |
| My apologies to Jim & company. My graceless debating was out of line. I will prove myself a worthy adversary and a convincing arguer once my brain has adjusted to two kids instead of one.
Cheers,
Ian |
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